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jcomp • today at 6:50 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

Assuming the Russia speculation is correct, what is their motivation? General chaos in Europe? It seems pretty reckless knowing this would be ascribed to them, and I don't see how they benefit here.


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torben-friis • today at 7:02 PM

Part of the goal is to be a nuisance so Europeans pay a price for supporting Ukraine, in the hopes that we decide it's not worth the heat. Russia is banking on the west's refusal to face a conflict and the sacrifices it causes, kinda like a game of chicken.

We're about to hit a series of important elections as well (Spain, France, I think Germany soon as well?), hybrid warfare is supposed to influence in favor of extreme parties.

It's a major issue. On paper NATO can mop the floor with Russia even without the US backing, but nobody in a first world country wants to die in a ditch, and the endgame there is also unclear because Russia can play the nuke card if they're too threatened.

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twalla • today at 7:00 PM

Retaliation for Ukrainian attacks on Yandex datacenters most likely - it communicates to EU states that Russia has capabilities to physically impact their infrastructure via cyberattack, which should act as a deterrent for sending aid or admitting Ukraine into the EU.

awakeasleep • today at 7:09 PM

I don't have any insight into this situation, but I feel like the incentives to blame Russia for any problem must be tremendous.

It's a perfect 'get out of jail free' card for any sufficiently complicated screw up.

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Jtsummers • today at 7:07 PM

As long as they can avoid loss of life (or significant loss of life) and direct attribution, but the rumors are still that it's Russia, this is a way to reduce popular support for Ukraine. The attacks aren't severe enough to make people want to support Ukraine to spite Russia, and it makes it apparent that there is a cost for the current support.

cenamus • today at 7:00 PM

How does firebombing the British PMs home benefit Russia? How does flying explosive laden drones into European airports benefit them? How does bombing Kiev benefit them? Russia still does it