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philipallstar • today at 9:06 AM • 2 replies • view on HN

Reducing funding for something sometimes harmful, which then correspondingly means the funding is not passed on to others, is not the Holocaust.

The utter degrading of the meanings of powerful words might get us there, though.


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OneDeuxTriSeiGo • today at 12:55 PM

> is not the Holocaust

Hitler and Nazi Germany did not start with the Holocaust. It was instead the end result. Something can be compared to Hitler or compared to the Nazis or their rhetoric without being literally the Holocaust.

Keep in mind that Hitler and the Nazis took power starting in 1933 but forcing jews to carry identification (i.e. add israel or sara to non-jewish names and add jewish identification marks to paperwork) didn't start until mid-to-late 1938 with Kristallnacht following only months later in Nov 1938.

But in that early period however Nazis began

- gutting research institution

- literally destroying research institutions and research. (ex the famous 1933 book burning picture was from the demolition of the Institute for Sexual Research which studied gender non conformity, intersex traits, and broader topics in the LGBTQIA academic space. Also was where the first transgender sex reassignment surgery took place.)

- expelling academics

- dismantling social programs

- pressuring companies into aligning with state ideological and industrial objectives

- seizing control of, attacking, or privatising domestic and foreign media

- pressuring domestic and foreign entertainment into aligning with Nazi ideological stances

- punishing, oppressing, and expelling political and cultural enemies of the party from the military and civic institutions.

- converting prisons into work camps.

- building out detention facilities/prisons for "illegals" with deplorable conditions with intent to make them suffer as long as possible. These would later become concentration camps and then death camps once crowding became too extreme. And notably this began with the romani population in the early 1930s who Nazis believed to be criminals illegally present within the country.

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Nazi germany was so much more than just the Holocaust and genocide of the Jewish people. They were part of it however they were the conclusion not the start.

dofm • today at 9:33 AM

> Reducing funding for something sometimes harmful, which then correspondingly means the funding is not passed on to others, is not the Holocaust.

This is a rather boring straw man characterisation of the claim you are replying to. Don’t do this.

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