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PaulHoule • today at 3:21 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

"Password manager you trust..."

Not so easy.

I've worked at places where we use a password manager to manage lots of passwords for random services that we subscribe to. The engineering manager always says "you can put your own passwords in for free" and I say "no thanks, they're going to get hacked" and then six months later... they get hacked.

I use the password manager on my iPhone because it seems pretty secure and it is so miserable to type passwords in on a phone but my other solution for passwords has used cryptographic generation with the database playing only a secondary role and it is fine for passwords but does nothing for passkeys.


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jjice • today at 3:24 PM

The idea of keeping my passwords in my work-sponsored password manager just sounds absurd. Who thinks that's a good idea? What happens when you leave the job?

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blackcatsec • today at 3:25 PM

What you describe is a different attack surface than the much more problematic on that password managers solve well: password re-use across websites where the blast radius is super high.

If I had to trade off the risk of a password manager being hacked versus password re-use, I'm going to strongly recommend to people generally to use a password manager. Yeah there's a lots of "if this, if that"--but that's almost a universally better risk for most people.

qbane • today at 3:31 PM

I think this part is where TOTP's 2FA/MFA model is "safer": you do not need to trust the TOTP manager. Even if the app sends all your TOTP secret keys to the server, they cannot hack your account because your password is stored elsewhere, and TOTP code alone is useless.

wastewastewaste • today at 3:24 PM

which password manager were you using that it got hacked?

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rjzzleep • today at 3:29 PM

KeepassXC now supports passkeys as well.

jasonmp85 • today at 3:24 PM

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