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nico • today at 12:47 AM • 6 replies • view on HN

> with 184 tokens/s on an Apple M5 Max

That seems pretty decent. How many tokens/s do you need for a coding agent to feel like Claude or codex?


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x312 • today at 12:52 AM

Claude code is 60-80 tps, codex varies by model but mostly 40-50 tps.

serf • today at 12:50 AM

>How many tokens/s do you need for a coding agent to feel like Claude or codex?

it's kind of a loaded question, this model gets a lot of tok/s but reasoning is forced on; the time-to-answer is really a combination of things like "how much does this thing want to over-reason" and "how much does this thing like tool use?" .

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davidsainez • today at 1:14 AM

AFAIU prefill speed makes a bigger difference in agentic coding workflows as the harness likely spends more time reading than creating new code. Qwen in particular spends a lot of time reasoning so it does make a larger impact there

nightbun • today at 12:49 AM

I’d say only 65