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montroser • today at 6:10 PM • 1 reply • view on HN

Well, this is much better than nothing -- we should be grateful that whatever the market conditions and corporate incentives, a major lab is releasing a capable open-weight model. But still very far behind DeepSeek and GLM. Even on consumer hardware, Qwen 3.8 27B is going to compare favorably to this.


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ShinyLeftPad • today at 6:19 PM

It's not open, like the Llama. There is a licensing agreement by which they allow you to use it for free on conditions.