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jrowen • yesterday at 6:40 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

I don't follow. What's the implication?

Imagine I give you a perfect roadmap to build that robot...

Responding to your edit, none of those things strike me as any more challenging than the control software.


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robotresearcher • yesterday at 6:50 PM

Maybe the perfect roadmap says the trash picker needs $600B investment and will cost $4M per unit in 10 years time, if we solve all the problems.

That trash picker may never compete with a human. There's no reason to assume it will.

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> none of those things strike me as any more challenging than the control software

Maybe the difficulties of motors and batteries are not intuitive. Look at their improvement rates over time. It's a far cry from transistor counts or FLOPS. And look at the performance and efficiency of humans and other animals. We are absurdly strong, light, efficient and cheap to maintain. The gap is huge and not closing quickly.

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tavavex • yesterday at 7:02 PM

The problem is that your roadmap requires things that don't exist yet or only exist at prohibitive prices, and it's not knowable how much time or money you will need to solve either one. So a concrete roadmap is impossible.

Advanced robotics would need to become quite cheap for them to become more affordable and convenient than a minimum-wage employee. And physical fields like materials engineering are known for moving quite slowly and at their own pace, so I'm not sure how much automation could help there.

That's the last barrier we have right now that prevents the total obsolescence (and therefore destruction) of the common worker.

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jimbokun • yesterday at 8:59 PM

> Responding to your edit, none of those things strike me as any more challenging than the control software.

Do you have relevant experience in any of those fields?

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