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randomblock1 • today at 7:26 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

Maybe, but that's what the cyber program is for. Nobody knew if the seed was fine or a backdoor. If it was a backdoor, and Claude helped you find it as a normal person, Anthropic would get bad PR. If you're a verified security researcher, actually that's fantastic and Anthropic would get good PR and everybody claps.

Anthropic wants to IPO, they don't want another Fable shutdown situation.

To be clear I would prefer the cyber safeguards to be less restrictive, I think they're currently too much. I often go to open models because of it. But there are likelier reasons to restrict cyber than world domination.


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areoform • today at 7:42 PM

    > Maybe, but that's what the cyber program is for
Why?

    > and Claude helped you find it as a normal person, Anthropic would get bad PR
Why?

Why are we celebrating and encouraging the walling off of the global intellectual columns?

The idea that you can't reverse engineer things, make things, learn about biology or physics without permission is strange to me. These machines have been trained on the sum intellectual output of humanity, the global intellectual commons, and are being used to close off that commons?

I would be OK with their right to create such restrictions if they weren't lobbying the Government to restrict others, thereby ensuring that they control humanity's intellectual commons well into the future.

Who are they to say what I can learn or can't learn? Who are they to control what I can or can't do with these tools?

Perhaps I'm naive, but I think it's better for humans and the machines if we can all think, learn and build. But then again, I'm the kind of person who rejects the doomer pill.

Reject this.

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landr0id • today at 7:56 PM

>Maybe, but that's what the cyber program is for.

I have been in the cyber program since around the time it first went public and recently renewed it with the updated program.

You still trivially hit guadrails. I was trying to reverse engineer some bit of 20-year-old software that already has known, unmitigated exploits and it still downgraded me.

verdverm • today at 8:11 PM

> that's what the cyber program is for

open weights are the better way imo, no elite gatekeepers please

saghm • today at 7:45 PM

> But there are likelier reasons to restrict cyber than world domination.

I mean, greed alone would seem to be enough, and it would be fully worth calling out as bullshit.

petesergeant • today at 7:29 PM

> Anthropic would get bad PR

I think the current administration would delight in harsher penalties