alt Hacker NewsWell this is a software issue, all of the Macs out there run the same operating system, the same software. This can't an issue of a defective Mac. I also have an M2 which is giving me the same issues.
I am right now using my M5, on low power mode on a flat surface and it's almost too hot to type on. I have Codex open, just idling, Firefox and Logseq.
All of the offending processes at the top of activity manager are currently system processes: duetexpertd, mediaanalysisd, MenuBarAgent, WindowServer, Spotlight Engine, Time Machine, etc. A lot of these deal with caches, files, indexes. I suspect the root problem is a shared internal philosophy which regards the owner of the machine as a second-class citizen to the system.
It is bewildering given that I do not want the majority of "features" this tangled mess is providing. Issues such as bad caches, misbehaving files or directories, etc. are likely not the culprit since I experience this on fresh OS installs across two MacBooks. In the sense that if it is those issues, it's a system issue which needs addressing, and not PEBCAK. I have Siri disabled, Time Machine off, iCloud off, all iPhone integrations I can adjust are off, etc. Yet these processes increasingly dominate my computer.
I do appreciate you engaging with me on this and I hope I haven't come across as confrontational.
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Have you tried not fucking about with all the processes? All my Mac’s run fine and I haven’t fucked with their settings. You’ve fucked with your settings and they all run fucked. “it’s a fresh install”. No you just acknowledged it’s a fresh install that you have immediately put in a very non default state.
> Well this is a software issue,
> You don't know that for sure.
> all of the Macs out there run the same operating system,
Wrong. Lots of Mac users skipped the Liquid Glass OSes. I was one until I bought an M5 that came with it. In fact, I was two versions behind on my M1 because the one before Tahoe also offered nothing that I wanted.
> the same software.
This referring to third-party software (my interpretation) is also wrong. People have wildly different setups, at least among us nerds.
> This can't an issue of a defective Mac.
Again, you don't know that. But your comment later on about two models having said issue is concerning. That said, there's a high likelihood that you run the same software on each.
> I am right now using my M5, on low power mode on a flat surface and it's almost too hot to type on.
If that's the case, I begin to suspect that the physical sensitivity that you mentioned in a different comment is the source. If that's the case, I'm empathetic cause it'd really suck to have that reaction. I can only make my M1 hot enough to noticeably warm up (or get hot) when slamming the CPU / GPU. I would hate for it to feel that way to me during normal use and you have my genuine sympathy if that's your experience on a machine running at normal levels. And if that's it, then get an external kbd and mouse. Not an ideal solution, but it sounds like the best option. Not portable. I know. But I'm looking for solutions here and there may be some compromise needed.