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abc42 • today at 11:18 AM • 5 replies • view on HN

No need to use a chinese provider, in case that's an issue for you. https://fireworks.ai provides this model for an ok price.


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peri-cl • today at 12:14 PM

To add to this, Fireworks (and many competitors, e.g. enumerated here[0]) offer zero-data retention inference, to anyone. DeepSeek cloud does not. It's part of their terms that anything you send them is fair game for them to train models on.

[0] https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4.1-flash

(The badges next to companies indicate their privacy terms, i.e. green/yellow/red)

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kenmacd • today at 12:04 PM

I figure (hope) buying from DeepSeek directly benefits them the most so they can release even more improvements and open-weight models.

Plus only one country has threatened to annex mine and it wasn't China.

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specproc • today at 11:42 AM

If one is not American, why prefer American? Chinese fine by me, I trust the US providers just as little.

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pimeys • today at 11:30 AM

There are multiple others in EU, and in US. Cheaper, more expensive, slower, faster. So much choice.

itsalwaysgood • today at 11:43 AM

Completely unrelated, but it's so odd to see upside down '8's in the first column of the base tables on their pricing page.