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Microsoft and CMU Team Up to Train Early Career Software Engineers

38 points • by azhenley • today at 6:45 PM • 41 comments • view on HN

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layer8 • today at 8:39 PM

> "With so many companies worldwide faced with upheaval due to AI in software development, I believe this program will become a template for rapidly leveling up new developers across the industry."

This seems cognitively dissonant with the AI upheaval resulting in the industry needing fewer developers. Maybe they want cheaper developers?

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bradfa • today at 8:38 PM

Curious how realistic the skills learned in such a program are still applicable in 1-2 years. This industry is moving very fast, it feels like the self motivated, self starter, self learner has been thriving. Probably a good thing to have such a program, but I have doubts.

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pards • today at 10:13 PM

> students will take DevOps: Engineering for Secure Development and Deployment

... in Github Actions? What a great way to discourage them from entering the industry.

geraldwhen • today at 9:04 PM

Microsoft? Maybe they’re hopeful the next admin will make OPT cheap labor again.

petcat • today at 9:09 PM

"software engineer" is likely a career long gone. "Product engineer" and architect is probably the only software-adjacent title that will have consistent demand for awhile.

Basically still just a prompt jockey but knows the difference between outputs that are good and bad.

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thadk • today at 9:07 PM

Can anyone share syllabi for these?

BatchJob • today at 9:16 PM

Im sorry for being so negative but MS sold software engineers (and US high school and college students) down the river so long ago, the nerve of them now even pretending to care is just so offensive. This business has gotten so rotten, the best thing I can tell anyone is to find something rewarding to do with your life.

coolThingsFirst • today at 8:07 PM

Now that you have learnt Software Engineering, hunting for a job is easy just make 10^10^10^10 job applications.

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dyauspitr • today at 7:55 PM

“So you type your request into this chat window…”

flowerlad • today at 8:13 PM

The assumption here is that senior engineers are still needed to review AI-generated code. That assumption might not be valid for very long. I find myself reviewing AI-generated code less and less because the code quality is very good -- and getting better every month. Soon reviewing AI-generated code will be like manually verifying the results of a calculator--it is a waste of time. At that point all you need is an architect. I predict senior software engineers will be obsolete within a year.

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