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solenoid0937 • today at 1:18 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

lmao at DeepSeek and "data processing guarantees"

We all know these providers have routed their users to OpenAI/Anthropic without telling them.

These are companies that use hundreds of thousands of stolen credit cards to sign up for fake accounts.

No sane business will use DeepSeek's API directly.

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GTG-16001: DeepSeek serves Claude instead of its own models and collects exchanges for model training

DeepSeek also silently relayed exchanges to Claude without informing DeepSeek customers. Like GTG-16002, their customers were likely not made aware that their requests were being funneled to Claude.

These cases include:

• A PRC technology company. An employee of a PRC-based technology company used what they believed was DeepSeek to analyze internal documentation. DeepSeek relayed that data to Claude. This data included sensitive information, including, for example, the full specifications, organizational structure, and strategic objectives of a flagship AI program. The company was almost certainly not made aware that its data was being relayed to Claude.

• Russian defense agency. DeepSeek relayed requests from an IT operator working with data from a Russian government agency associated with its Ministry of Defense. The relayed requests exposed live credentials for a Russian government database.

• PRC police surveillance. Engineers building a case management system for a municipal Public Security Bureau in China used DeepSeek, which relayed those requests to Claude. The engineer built a tool that compares a person’s movements against police records using the national ID number of citizens.

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edit: yikes the PRC bots didn't like this comment


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throwaway7356 • today at 1:47 PM

> These are companies that use hundreds of thousands of stolen credit cards to sign up for fake accounts.

You claim VISA and other credit card companies don't mind if merchants like DeepSeek steal hundreds of thousands of credit cards and use them? And still continue to give them merchant accounts to continue with that?

Isn't it more likely that some people are scaremongering?

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nativeit • today at 1:27 PM

Because OpenAI and Anthropic are so virtuous and trustworthy?

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try-working • today at 2:17 PM

Completely fake. Those companies used relay stations, or third party gateways, to access Anthropic models. https://x.com/trydotworks/status/2098300730805284961?s=20

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