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23jah76 • today at 4:49 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

"But even beyond Rails, the Ruby language itself is now substantially developed using LLM agents. Matz is giving talks repositioning Ruby as a “Programming Language for AI age”, to be emitted by LLM agents, and stating that to be able to do that LLMs need to consume more good human-written Ruby code. You might already have seen the problem here."

Insane. This is the guy who was proclaimed to be "nice" by his followers. The biggest LLM sellouts in open source are Ruby and Scala.

Ironically Oracle with Java is now being the good guy.


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NitpickLawyer • today at 5:05 PM

> The biggest LLM sellouts in open source

I'm pretty sure someone will soon call Linus a sell-out. The hate / denial / radicalisation is just sad at this point... Do, or don't, but at least don't hate the others. Be and let be. No need to call other people names just because you don't like their sand castle. There's plenty of sand on the beach.

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delichon • today at 4:57 PM

You can't both be nice and believe that LLMs are useful tools?

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masklinn • today at 4:58 PM

> Ironically Oracle [...] is now being the good guy.

Reminder: oracle is also an acronym, and you might want to take a gander at what its subject is up to.

There is no future in which oracle is the good guy no matter the axis. Least of all the subject of AI.

tra3 • today at 4:58 PM

Seems unnecessarily harsh. LLMs are a power tool. I'm not on-board with how it's being used in a lot of places, once things shake out I believe it's going to be net positive.

erulabs • today at 5:10 PM

'Oracle is the good guy' is a sort of canary in the coal mine that perhaps you've got your worldview a bit upside down

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lbrito • today at 4:55 PM

I'm glad someone else called out Matz on this.

He started being ambivalent about it maybe two years ago, and reached metastasis in the latest Rails World fiasco, with dhh telling him to his face that his life's work (Matz's terms) is irrelevant now.

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