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julianlam • today at 12:13 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

That can occur in a cloud-based, closed-weight model as well. So this argument makes no sense.

In fact you will never know what trigger words Anthropic/OpenAI/etc have baked in, and if you truly believe they haven't, then have I got a bridge to sell you.


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echoangle • today at 12:16 AM

That’s an argument against Anthropic/OpenAI, not for Deepseek. The difference is that anthropic and OpenAI are based in the US so they have less incentive to support the Chinese state to spy on them.

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jstanley • today at 8:01 AM

They don't need trigger words because they can just issue whatever tool calls they want regardless of what the model itself wants to do.

iugtmkbdfil834 • today at 5:53 AM

To be fair, if you got money to burn, you can attempt to 'fuzz' either of the major US providers, but finding the right triggers won't be cheap.

linkregister • today at 4:56 AM

What is the value in making an unfalsifiable assertion?

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