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gz5 • today at 12:47 AM • 3 replies • view on HN

fridges are very reliable. but let's IoT them anyways so they can theoretically notify us if there is a problem.

so of course that creates/enables the problem and doesn't notify us.

deliciously ironic and rottingly sad.

this case was egregious - built-in backdoor pw - but that is downstream of the decisions to IoT them and to default them to listen on the network.


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esikich • today at 1:19 AM

Electricity is expensive. Grocery stores work on extremely thin margins with stock that literally turns rotten. These are physical devices that need maintenance. Their failure is often catastrophic. Grocery store workers are not equipped to fix an HVAC system. Someone needs to monitor for preventative maintenance.

I can't understand the mindset that would treat this as a trivial problem. What's sad is your confidence in giving this situation a 5 second take and declaring the whole thing stupid. Yes, security was clearly an issue, but saying that monitoring of critical infrastructure is sad is bizarre.

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icehawk • today at 1:43 AM

This isn't your single compressor/evaporator/condenser coil appliance that sits in your kitchen. These are far larger and more complex systems.

The AK-SM 800A can control 170 different refrigeration devices. This is more akin to the entire freezer section (and probably meat and dairy) in your supermarket.

vlovich123 • today at 1:29 AM

How is it a bad idea to want to automate maintenance of the fridges? It doesn’t require a bad implementation.