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petcat • today at 10:38 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

> they do not believe that big corporations in the US or Europe would actually use chinese models

This is exactly right. The only AI that matters from an investor perspective is the AI that is built into your phone, your car, ships with Windows and Mac, and built into legal and business tools like Lexus Nexus and Salesforce.

Everything else is hobby.


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rafaelmn • today at 10:55 AM

That's why OpenAI hard pivoted from consumer tech into enterprise ?

The only AI that makes money is enterprise. Being open weights/self-hostable is a huge win before the pricing even enters the conversation, but pricing is also adding a ceiling on what US labs get to charge. And stuff like powering other software also works better with fine-tunes, hence legal models, etc.

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bonplan23 • today at 10:45 AM

Also the concern that open weights models could contain dormant adversarial behavior (i.e. they are sleeper agents) is more popular amongst decision makers than one would think.

In that regard it was a clever marketing move by Anthropic to release their paper "Sleeper Agents: Training Deceptive LLMs that Persist Through Safety Training" ....

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layer8 • today at 1:12 PM

I don’t know about investors, but EU businesses with regulatory requirements are favoring EU-hosted Chinese open-weight model over US closed-weight services.

willsmith72 • today at 10:40 AM

to be honest anything built into my phone, car, ships with mac is a hobby

what's important is where big enterprise point their budgets. and there we agree, it's not to chinese models (as hopeful as I am that we can avoid a duopoly and great local models)