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GreenWatermelon • today at 10:47 AM • 5 replies • view on HN

Until the Chinese stuff came online I was completely convinced this is just a bubble waiting to pop and nothing will come of this tech due to its absurd costs. The Chinese stuff changed this picture massively. I'm daily driving DeepSeek 4.1 flash (at API prices) and every now and then I give Opus 5.5 a try and don't notice anything missing for me.

My workflow is one where I am heavily involved in the process and I don't like giving the agent too much autonomy + I need to follow along. Opus 5.5 speak is still cause aneurysms for my brain. It also has this vibe to its prose... like it's looking down on me. This is Prolly my bias speaking though.


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unsupp0rted • today at 12:34 PM

> My workflow is one where I am heavily involved in the process and I don't like giving the agent too much autonomy

For such workflows it barely matters which of a dozen models gets used.

Whereas if you're handing off all dev and no longer reading code, just making CTO-level architecture decisions, then there are only 2~3 models right now worth using, none cheap.

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pmoriarty • today at 12:03 PM

> I'm daily driving DeepSeek 4.1 flash (at API prices) and every now and then I give Opus 5.5 a try and don't notice anything missing for me.

I was doing the same (along with GLM 5.3 Flash) for months, and then gave Claude Sonnet 5.5 at medium effort a try. The difference was like night and day. Where both DeepSeek 4.1 Flash and GLM 5.3 Flash kept making mistakes and would have to do a bunch of iterations to find and fix them, Claude Sonnet 5.5 just did it right on the first try.

In my experience, while DeepSeek 4.1 Flash and GLM 5.3 Flash are a lot cheaper per token, they're just as or maybe even more expensive when you factor in all the extra tokens that are need to troubleshoot and fix their mistakes -- and even more expensive if I factor in my own time wasted doing the same, not to mention the frustration of having to deal with that.

DeepSeek 4.1 Flash also hallucinates a lot.[1]

I'm hoping all this improves with time, and the gap between the competent frontier models and open weight models narrows.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4dTq4X8bqk

adventured • today at 12:13 PM

OpenAI's entire business is trivially profitable when you attach an ad network to ChatGPT.

Quick, someone point out the one billion user system with intent + personal data rich that doesn't result in a $100+ billion high margin ad network.

It is that simple and absolutely nothing can stop the gigantic ad networks that will be built up around personal agents.

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Den_VR • today at 11:59 AM

That’s the Model Welfare speaking, not your bias.

shivsarthak34 • today at 1:33 PM

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