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phi0 • today at 2:47 PM • 1 reply • view on HN

DeepSeek's API used to (does still?) route your requests directly to Claude Fable[1]. Those were provably Claude Fable's responses being returned by the DeepSeek API. This was months after Anthropic accused them of distillation of Claude at scale[2].

Them provably distilling after being accused of distilling strongly indicates that... that's what they do. To spin a story of them not doing that (because why would they, with their superior talent and all) doesn't seem very reality conform.

The models are impressive enough as is (considering resource constraints and difference in CapEx) despite being heavily distilled from western frontier models. No need to pretend that they're not.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48966016

[2]: https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-dist...


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lifeisloving • today at 3:47 PM

You really cited a tech politics person, and Anthropic... The poltical AI people are the exact type of cope distributors I complained about above.

I think the more reasonable explanation is this is totally made up. Notice how they use examples concerning "cyber and bio" notice how the examples are politically loaded subjects that are hyper relevant to proposed AI dangers and why we need to protect western AI companies with anti-competitive regulations?

Oh no!!! The scary asians are distilling our models, but they only want the scary things!!! They want to hurt you!! We better stop the scary asians!!!

You need to up your media literacy.

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