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10000truths • today at 3:03 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

Web PKI doesn't mandate that every client ship with its own root certs. The clients you listed can be configured to use a centrally managed trust store, if that's what you want. The fact that they don't by default is a deliberate tradeoff that the clients made, not some standard's fault.


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kalkin • today at 3:05 PM

This isn't, like, one misbehaving client. It's the way the ecosystem has evolved. GP didn't specify whether they were criticizing the standard or the ecosystem more broadly, but even if they were criticizing the standard, it's pretty fair to evaluate a standard at least partly based on how it gets implemented in practice. There's a reason cryptography tools for the last decade or more have been focused on being misuse-resistant.

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unethical_ban • today at 3:31 PM

Why don't these massive package managers use the host OS CA store, with an optional preconfigured "additional" store if clients need them?

Is the update cadence of CAs that different between the sources? Is the list of CAs included so different from OS vendors and the package managers?

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