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ant6n • today at 9:40 AM • 8 replies • view on HN

"New goal: not exceed 2°C, then bring the temperature back down to 1.5°C"

It kind of feels people have given up. I'm working on a startup that aims to replaces aviation (the most difficult emissions to avoid) with night trains in Europe (currently economically uncompetitive). It's an obvious impact story, but impact appears to be "out".


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bluGill • today at 11:47 AM

I'm against night trains. Much better to have high speed travel during the day and then at night close down the tracks completely and do your track maintenance so the tracks are good for the next day. You can get by with skipping maintenance here and there, but that quickly will come back to haunt you and make your trains even worse.

Take a great day train, get some plays and then take a hotel room for the night. That's the most sustainable way to travel.

noelwelsh • today at 9:47 AM

Nice concept. I caught European Sleeper last week, my first time on a night train. It was ok but I'd like something better if I was using it regularly.

It's a tough time to do something about climate change. Short-termism is very attractive right now.

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hackernud3s • today at 9:50 AM

The problem is the people you would need to convince. You'd be selling to people who largely won't care and don't want to be inconvenienced.

marcyb5st • today at 9:46 AM

I agree. I was looking at a night train from Milan to Lecce. It costed waaay more than flights+ the extra night in the hotel. Crazy if you think about it

m4rtink • today at 9:46 AM

IIRC night trains are kinda making a comeback - they are quite convenient that you can travel over night & wake up in your destination. Otherwise you would spend a day traveling & would need 1-2 days of accommodation on top of that.

jMyles • today at 9:43 AM

Yeah, why _are_ night trains uncompetitive? Is it just so simple as "air travel doesn't have externalities priced in"?

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KellyCriterion • today at 10:07 AM

> night trains in Europe

That company from austria seems quite successfull, IIRC?

hsuduebc2 • today at 9:48 AM

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