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embedding-shape • today at 11:18 AM • 5 replies • view on HN

The first time you go to the bank, you do the "trust exchange" (maybe scanning a QR? People sure love that) that verifies future connections, similar to how you acquire digital certificates today when you deal with the government online and similar.

Edit: > Every time you access your bank on different devices normalizes it so that visiting a typo domain would show the dialog and many would just click through.

Show the dialog? What dialog? There is no dialogues here, you cannot login to the bank unless you've verified the connection. You do it with your phone, then you can propagate the trust from there to other devices if needed.


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bluehatbrit • today at 11:44 AM

Not all banks have physical locations, not everyone has the ability to get to the ones which do.

You can't walk back from the existing expectation and ease of use we have today. It's just not going to happen, people will opt for the current path because it's easy and seems good enough to them.

Most normal people don't even know this whole thing is going on. They don't know the difference between http and https other than "it's secure".

If we want to improve on this, it has to come with the current level of ease of use at a minimum.

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bee_rider • today at 2:13 PM

That could be kind of interesting.

It does seem to lean on the physical bank-front being trustworthy (no evil clerks).

If we’re meeting physically to set up connections, we could even use something like a one-time-pad, and be information-theoretically secure. How many bits does your bank really need to send you securely anyway?

whywhywhywhy • today at 11:22 AM

Every time you access your bank on different devices normalizes it so that visiting a typo domain would show the dialog and many would just click through.

u8080 • today at 1:14 PM

Like...TOTP or FIDO2?

lirolero • today at 11:47 AM

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