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msandford • today at 12:43 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

Europe as a whole has also failed to hit NATO defense spending targets, for at least a decade. Look at this article from 2016. https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2016/07/nato-spending-two-c...

At some point a partnership isn't a partnership if people don't participate.


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Waterluvian • today at 1:11 PM

It's absolutely true that almost all of NATO was not doing their part and should have been. It's good that they're starting to. But the U.S. enjoyed and benefitted greatly from that command of soft power. The U.S. has now transitioned to being a transactional hegemon, which leads to the divestment of that power. This is dangerous for us all because Americans will either have to accept their lesser position in the world, or will double down on using violence and aggression to maintain their status. The latter is almost exclusively what we've been enduring over the past years.

piva00 • today at 12:48 PM

Well, then it's time for the USA to pack it up from all bases in Europe and go back home, if it isn't a partnership there's no need to be loitering around for this long, no?

myersj • today at 1:12 PM

> At some point a partnership isn't a partnership if people don't participate.

Similarly, at some point people should wonder what else might come out of a partnership aside from raw spending dollars and whether there is value there, instead of simply parroting stupid domestic bumper stickers as if they have value or add insight.