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erkt • yesterday at 8:15 PM • 9 replies • view on HN

Are they still in competition? Or are they a government sanctioned monopoly? I’m not sure that will be competitive. There are no market forces to do so but pride.


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jxf • yesterday at 8:31 PM

A lot of national defense stuff is a de facto "government sanctioned monopoly" and this is certainly the same flavor. Market forces are different if the industry is perceived to be vital to continued sovereignty.

Certhas • yesterday at 8:52 PM

You are severely misusing the term monopoly.

There is demand for AI that is not US or China controlled. Mistral is serving that demand.

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hnfong • yesterday at 8:40 PM

Being the only(?) competitive European model probably makes them a de-facto monopoly for doing sensitive European stuff.

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OKRainbowKid • yesterday at 8:26 PM

Which government? Sanctioned how? What stops other European companies from competing with Mistral? Is the situation better in the US?

LunaSea • yesterday at 9:13 PM

That's rich coming from a country who's top AI contender just announced 80B in yearly losses. Looks a lot like a subsidised duopoly to me.

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0gs • yesterday at 8:32 PM

french are pretty proud man. pro-euro europeans too!

impossiblefork • yesterday at 8:53 PM

I mean, the model architecture is basically that of GLM 5.3 with slightly more parameters and slightly more active parameters, so it should probably be able to beat GLM 5.3 enough post-training.

olivierduval • yesterday at 8:34 PM

Actually, with Trump in the Office, "AI/Data Sovereignty" is quite a strong market forces. From Europe point-of-view, any US company is a potential risk (hello Starlink)

;-)

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maelito • yesterday at 8:41 PM

It's well known that every Mistral employee is a fonctionnaire. No.