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skeledrew • today at 9:57 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

> people who care about the craft usually care about it telling genuine human stories and celebrating the author as much as the result

No, the human was never a core factor. People who enjoy a van Gogh - or any other work - primarily do so because it has particular qualities they appreciate (no, being human-made isn't an intrinsically appreciable quality; secondarily because many humans instinctively like to possess unique - or "shiny" - things), and the author tends to be a very good means to access other works with such qualities. That "celebrating the author" is just a side-effect, and there's nothing to stop a non-human entity from "telling genuine human stories" (whatever that means).

> why should the machines be compelled to interact with you?

The ultimate purpose of machines is to serve humans, and that's a bit hard to do without interaction. Just as the ultimate purpose of humans - and other living things - is to survive.


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mkaic • today at 10:36 PM

> People who enjoy a van Gogh - or any other work - primarily do so because it has particular qualities they appreciate (no, being human-made isn't an intrinsically appreciable quality; secondarily because many humans instinctively like to possess unique - or "shiny" - things)

Speak for yourself. You could show me the exact same artistic image, same exact pixels, but if I know it was made by a human, it will instantly be worth more to me and capture more of my interest. Conversely, having the knowledge that the pixels were created by a machine would make me instantly lose interest in the image.

I think "being human-made" very much is an intrinsically appreciable quality, but you have to include the production of the art as part of the art itself for that to be the case. And I and many other people explicitly do include the production of the art as part of the art itself. Not everyone shares this perspective, but many do.

Seattle3503 • today at 10:53 PM

That might be true for some people, but I don't think parents who keep their children's art are doing it for the quality of the art.

hall0ween • today at 10:45 PM

> No, the human was never a core factor. People who enjoy a van Gogh - or any other work - primarily do so because it has particular qualities they appreciate

I don't follow. How about the 20k year old cave paintings in Lascaux? Are you saying "What you appreciate about it isn't the craft, or the story and history behind it; you care about only some of it's qualities?"