alt Hacker News> DHS was founded in 2003, as was ICE. The country got along for 227 years without these organizations
Almost like something happened shortly before then that caused a seismic shift in our national security posture…
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grandpajoey • today at 4:59 PM
The biggest false flag of all time, which led directly to the fascist policies we're talking about and the death of millions of innocent people in the Middle East? I wonder who benefited from that huh?
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The fact that 9/11 happened does not imply that DHS and ICE as currently structured and operating are necessary. At most it implies _some_ change might have been necessary, but not definitely _this_ change. It certainly doesn't mean we can never look for reform.