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npn • yesterday at 8:12 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

It is pretty obvious anthropic is lying yet again if you think about it rationally.

Unlike Claude models which always hide the thinking process, Chinese models always show it. So how the heck they can delegate the api call to anthropic and still get the full reasoning? Yes there are tricks to reveal the thinking output, but they are just tricks and do not works reliably. So what would happen when they failed to do it? Cancel the ongoing token generation and revert back to it own model? What about the glitches, the delays, the changes in behavior?

I would understand if the attempts are small in volume, because normally people hardly notice it, but anthropic claims that they happened for millions of calls. Such large numbers would surely get noticed by Chinese users and got reported in the tech forums like linux.do. yet we haven't seen any sight.


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smurf9852 • yesterday at 8:45 PM

They probably took real inputs and served their owned model to the user, while also getting the response from Claude to compare/train

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staticman2 • yesterday at 9:03 PM

I agree we shouldn't believe Anthropic but if you wanted to scam people into thinking they weren't using Claude wouldn't you simply generate synthetic COT?

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