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ndm000 • yesterday at 11:03 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

If the scores on Artificial Analysis really do mean that this model is better than GPT-6 Astra and Fable 5.1, that means that China is more like 6 weeks behind the US in frontier capabilities rather than 6 months. Which means that the US lead is all but gone.


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SV_BubbleTime • today at 1:00 AM

Could be part of the reason that the frontier models are getting the administration to go a little harder against Chinese models.

dan_p • yesterday at 11:09 PM

Ant/OpenAI both have unreleased models that are seemingly much more capable than what they offer today, so I'd say that's pretty unclear.

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culi • yesterday at 11:20 PM

Perhaps you missed this part:

> Open-weight principles. These evaluations frame our open-weight release decision. First, we aim not to release open weights that would extend the absolute frontier of cyber capability. K3.1 Pro's offensive cyber capability is, by design, below what our pipeline can produce, and remains behind that of frontier proprietary models. Second, we intend to progressively raise the cyber capability available in open weights. We believe making K3.1 Pro available in a non-discriminatory way benefits people who need dual-use capabilities for defensive purposes. When a capable model is open and runs on infrastructure its users control, many more teams gain the means to audit the code they maintain — including legacy systems that rarely receive dedicated security reviews. We believe that letting this capability diffuse gradually — rather than concentrating it in a few proprietary systems — ultimately makes all software more secure.

I don't think Chinese labs are behind at all. I think the tell is that they keep releasing models 2 weeks after new American proprietary models that match or beat them. Suggesting they're sitting on much higher capabilities and releasing just enough to undercut

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