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elmer2 • yesterday at 10:59 PM • 7 replies • view on HN

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throwaway473825 • yesterday at 11:08 PM

I'll give you credits for emphasizing electricity, because Europe isn't against air conditioning. Basically all cars sold in Europe, or made by European companies and sold elsewhere, have air conditioning - but they're powered by oil.

The EU ETS - Europe's flagship carbon market program - specifically exempts gas for heating and oil for transportation, but not power generation, which incentivizes oil and gas over electricity:

https://ember-energy.org/app/uploads/2025/06/many-building-r...

Unfortunately, air conditioning in buildings runs on electricity, and thus it's discouraged. But that's more due to a dislike of electricity than of air conditioning itself.

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yread • yesterday at 11:10 PM

Even in the perfect land of the free people die from heat:

> we estimate that some 9,000 deaths each year in the country are impacted by heat

https://www.npr.org/2026/08/31/nx-s1-5724225/heat-wave-death...

ThrowawayTestr • today at 1:07 AM

The first time I heard this fact I laughed for way too long.

cromka • yesterday at 11:16 PM

Heat deaths are almost entirely due to harvesting effect, i.e. comorbidity deaths.

Unless you are a psychopath and consider shooting another person intentionally a harvest death, they're not the same.

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netsharc • yesterday at 11:18 PM

What do you call it when the only one believing the lie is the liar himself... Getting high of one's supply?

If Europeans want AC, they can buy one. The speed of climate change is such that the 50k dead probably have thought they didn't need one and can cope with the "few days" of heat. (or can't afford one, but that's not a uniquely European problem (1)). In 2026 it was more than a "few days".

(1) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/millions-struggle-to-pay...

Hikikomori • yesterday at 11:02 PM

I'll take fox news headlines for 200.

afry1 • yesterday at 11:05 PM

Yeesh, such whataboutism.