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Georgelemental • yesterday at 7:43 PM • 7 replies • view on HN

"Illegal alien" is a term used throughout federal immigration law, e.g. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1366


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atmavatar • yesterday at 8:15 PM

"Alien" is the term referring to the person. "Illegal" is merely a status.

It's arguable that "illegal alien" is itself dehumanizing, implying that a person can be legal or illegal merely by existing, when in reality, it's the actions they perform which are legal or illegal. In this case, the action is entering the country without following proper procedure, which is more like trespassing, except at a country-level rather than individual property level.

Shortening the label to "illegal" removes the last vestige of reference to the target as a person and further cements the idea that a person's existence can be good or bad.

kadoban • yesterday at 7:48 PM

You are implying that the law cannot be dehumanizing?

jmcqk6 • yesterday at 8:59 PM

That doesn't make it exempt from being dehumanizing. Indeed codified dehumanization is one the primary mechanisms by which it is realized.

pesus • yesterday at 8:49 PM

The current regime is openly racist and dehumanizing towards many groups, so that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

ribosometronome • yesterday at 7:55 PM

"Illegals" != "Illegal alien"