alt Hacker NewsHow can you start an outcry like this, but host stuff like this, tagged with a permissive license:
https://open3dlab.com/project/e2a0830d-f166-4b1b-aabf-8ca735...
Just an example, there's plenty more on the frontpage.
I have nothing against these guys, but I just can't understand the moral high ground of the complaint.
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https://open3dlab.com/project/04d18c1b-c508-4017-be7b-766904...
Straight up theft, not fan recreations, theft.
Oddly, this makes their argument even stronger. Why would Roblox download this?
Considering you link something that has a non comnercial license CC-by-NC, there might be others with permissive licenses. There might be things in their TOS of the site,
DMCA safe harbor? They're not responsible for user uploads until they are made aware of violations.
Theft requires that you intentionally deprive the original owner of the object, this is copying.
Funnily enough the YouTube video that came up when I viewed the page was an instructional video on ripping models from Unreal Engine games.
Individuals doing bad things is not the same as corporations doing bad things.
well it kinda worked? over on reddit r/gaming thinks the data has been stolen
more radicalization towards AI
Moral high grounds don't mean much these days. They are weaponized as a way to get an advantage in an argument.
If you read the article, you'd find they admit to that, their position is nuanced, and this is not a "gotcha".
> We'll be honest about where we stand. We don't like copyright as it exists. We'd like to see it radically reformed, and we wouldn't mourn it if it were abolished. Our community lives in its grey areas every day: many of the models on our sites are fan ports of characters from commercial games, made out of love and shared for free. When a studio sends us a takedown notice, we comply.
> While we as small artists and fan communities get copyright used against us, the world's largest companies are committing copyright infringement at a scale unseen in human history. This has been the case since the invention of the internet of course; digital media make duplication, remixing and resharing trivial, but copyright law never caught up. Filesharing stabbed copyright in the gut. AI is just twisting the knife, and completes the creation an unequal system where copyright infringement is only a crime if you're a low net worth individual.
Rich companies are infringing copyright at industrial scale in order to build their LLMs, and even if caught and challenged, they don't suffer any catastrophic punishment. The infringed party gets enough money to shut them up and everyone moves on. A fine is a price. They'll keep doing it with impunity. Meanwhile the small guy who doesn't have copyright lawyers on retainer is getting shafted, time and time again.