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silverFork • yesterday at 12:54 PM • 8 replies • view on HN

How is this even possible in this day and age. It can be all automated, double and quad checked enroute ..


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gpvos • yesterday at 1:23 PM

This route is the last of the Spanish high speed lines that still has an older train protection system. There has been a similar accident in 2002 in Germany where LZB was also used: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linienf%C3%B6rmige_Zugbeeinflu... . Now after 24 years you might think they had mitigating procedures in place...

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Rapzid • yesterday at 12:58 PM

It's the second time this year too. In Spain. Same company.

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boringg • yesterday at 1:18 PM

This was my immediate thought -- this is such a tragic unforced error. It seems impossible for this to happen.

manarth • yesterday at 1:03 PM

It's been reported that the automated system had failed, so trains were being routed and instructed manually.

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paxy • yesterday at 1:01 PM

"In this day and age" means nothing when so many of these train systems are running on technology from the mid-1900s.

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edelbitter • yesterday at 2:45 PM

As long as vision zero is considered more of a gross infringement on personal freedums than a laudable goal, making trains as safe as they are uniquely fit to become is not exactly a great way to allocate funds to maximize impact. Trains are already very safe. Even where they currently lack 4 layers of fail-safe systems operated at a level where that still permits reliable&punctual service. The same money on making them shine could be spent on improving car infrastructure (or even removing some car infrastructure!) for greater expected harm reduction.

meerita • yesterday at 1:11 PM

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anthk • yesterday at 1:08 PM

In Spain the train network was neglected so car and oil companies could earn tons of money since the 70's.

But Toledo-Madrid it's a special high speed network with thousands of daily users heading Madrid to work, which is just 1h away from Toledo.

Still, I will always be pro-train because they can mass deliver goods at much higher ratio than by truck.

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