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ChrisGreenHeur • today at 1:47 PM • 9 replies • view on HN

Could they not deport the ones without a criminal record as well?


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skulk • today at 2:05 PM

Immigration in the US has always been more complicated than "no papers? gotta go." Moving north to do some seasonal work then moving back south is a very old thing, and was enshrined into law by the "Bracero program" in the post ww2 era. In the 60s, however, it was ended abruptly, giving migratory workers no choice but to stay illegally. ... and business owners no choice but to keep hiring them.

The idea that illegal immigrants need to be deported (and not have a path to legal residency) comes from a view that those jobs should go to American citizens (which will bring economic pain that is intolerable) or from a view that browns don't belong in the USA.

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Arkhaine_kupo • today at 2:04 PM

Its too much work, we did violent rounding up of brown people to have images to re use for campaigns and now we can use the paramilitary force for chasing political dissidents like any normal democratic goverment would do.

Lets ignore that the richest man on the planet has a credible record of being n immigrant who stayed in the US illegaly, and has open criminal record probes in at least 2 countries. But I guess a 350 million donation to the standing goverment in campaign donations might make it difficult for ICE to find him

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nyc_data_geek • today at 1:48 PM

Sure, along with the occasional public execution, for optics.

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rurp • today at 7:05 PM

They already are. A majority of ICE detainees have no criminal record and that has been true for most of this administration.

gadders • today at 3:44 PM

You'd think, wouldn't you?

micromacrofoot • today at 3:31 PM

Sure but keep in mind that most of these people pay taxes into a system that they don't actually benefit from (social security for one), so by doing so you're actually causing more economic damage than you think you're fixing.

So if someone lives here, works and pays taxes, and has not been convicted of any other crime... why would we want to deport them? By some measures migrants pay more taxes and commit less crime than natural born citizens. We should just get them paperwork and let them continue being good citizens while we also reform the process that resulted in them being here illegally in the first place.

Why should we spend billions of dollars on this problem that in many ways, on paper, is beneficial?

nbajka • today at 2:04 PM

That would be mean.

shevy-java • today at 2:04 PM

We have evidence now that they execute people without a criminal record.

See the execution of Renée Good. Remember how the ICE terrorist deliberately stepped before her car, to try to make a defensive claim aka "had to shoot her to stop her". Meanwhile his other two terrorist buddies were standing NEXT to the car, thus invalidating the lie quite logically. After all, how did two other ICE terrorists manage to not get into that situation that the murderer chose to employ here? So there is a lack of consistency among ICE terrorists.

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