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tstactplsignore • today at 2:14 PM • 0 replies • view on HN

Well if we're comparing I've been here a bit longer.

I would make two points here.

1. ICE is breaking the law in many, many different ways. It is not legal to murder multiple US citizens like Alex Pretti and Renee Good. The conditions of their internment camps (I will use the euphemism as I suspect you would not like the more accurate term) are not legal. And many, many other issues, please see:

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/we-documented-12...

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/ice-cb...

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-administration-has-de...

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/courts-have-ruled-4...

By your legalist moral standards, is this not also "black and white"? Do people not have a right or duty to protest it?

2. What is legal is not always what is morally right. The comments you are making mirror those in past "legal" civil rights violations at scale. The same arguments were made against the civil rights movement in the 60s, anti apartheid movement, and pretty much every civil rights movement. The answer in all of those cases is the same: what is legal does not determine what is morally right, and we have a civic duty to nonviolent protest when the two conflict. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg%27s_stages_o...