Realistically, do you think open borders is good policy?
I think we can have a more humane policy enforced by INS without masked ICE agents killing and running over people in the streets.
Realistically, do you think whataboutisms are the proper way to address the question at hand?
Both suck. Lets find a way to fix both before spending an eternity on a stupid circular argument.
It is a lack of imagination to think that the current iteration of immigration enforcement and visa policy is the only alternative to open borders.
That's a completely different question. You're doing pancakes/waffles.