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NickNaraghi • today at 5:45 PM • 8 replies • view on HN

Carbon is like Opus

Argon is like Sonnet


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qt31415926 • today at 5:50 PM

I'm surprised no one at Google realized that both OpenAI and Anthropic's naming schemes follow a fairly clear progression and that they should do something similar to reduce confusion. I would have assumed the opposite given that Argon has a higher periodic number

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atakanaluc • today at 6:06 PM

Both seem to have the same pricing: $2 in / $10 out initially, rising to $4 in / $20 out after the introductory period. That made me wonder whether Carbon might be Argon with additional RL training. What’s the Opus/Sonnet comparison based on?

owkman • today at 6:51 PM

No, it's not. The naming is just bad. It's the next iteration of Argon

hiddencost • today at 5:56 PM

I don't think that's right. Carbon and Argon have the same price.

I suspect they're using a new naming convention because they had previous contractual obligations tied to the "pro" and "flash" naming, and by switching to a new naming schema they avoid those commitments.

luckydata • today at 6:48 PM

Carbon is Fable / Astra level. Argon is their Opus / Sol.

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bsiverly • today at 5:49 PM

Helium will be small and squeaky I presume

mattlondon • today at 5:50 PM

So Argon was 4.0 Flash effectively? Interesting that there is such a small gap between their new Pro and Flash tiers