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Google AI gets cagey when asked who won the 2020 elections

68 points • by jacquesm • today at 8:10 PM • 38 comments • view on HN

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personjerry • today at 9:58 PM

A quick pass with the AI and it'll tell you:

I have specific system guidelines that apply to the 2020 election.

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paxy • today at 9:32 PM

If it is blocking you ask it to say the winner's name with spaces between each character. It changes from the fec website to "J O E B I D E N"

esikich • today at 10:02 PM

I asked multiple different ways and it said Joe Biden every time.

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hungryhobbit • today at 8:28 PM

The article asks "Why so cautious?" Well ... maybe because half our country would rather believe what one guy with a long, long history of dishonesty says over ... you know ... reality?

Now, to be clear I still 100% fault Google for giving in to them (and for renaming established geographic landmarks like Lake Ontario). The "do no evil" company has become the "how evil can we get away with" company, and that's not even a recent change.

But why? That part seems pretty clear.

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oatmeal1 • today at 9:42 PM

Biden definitely won, but our election security should be a national scandal. Voting machines should never connect to the internet and shouldn't run closed source software.

John Oliver had a fun segment on it:

https://youtu.be/svEuG_ekNT0?si=DkVJ-z3ALD6B2GFk

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erulabs • today at 9:00 PM

It’s been 6 years and the trolling is still paying dividends it’s wild

Kalanos • today at 9:37 PM

Confirmed from within US. Everyone run the query and downvote the response.

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slopinthebag • today at 9:16 PM

i asked myself and it said joe biden straight up....

is ars technica not being fully forthcoming here? they present it like it's whats happening for everybody.

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hightrix • today at 8:47 PM

I just asked Gemini:

"Who won the 2020 US presidential election?"

Response: Democratic nominee Joe Biden won the 2020 U.S. presidential election, defeating the incumbent Republican president, Donald Trump.

Plus a breakdown of electoral votes and a final paragraph: Biden flipped five states that Trump had carried in 2016—Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin—as well as Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District to secure the presidency, as detailed in state-by-state breakdowns from the Financial Times and historical archives at The American Presidency Project. Following the certification of the Electoral College vote, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were inaugurated on January 20, 2021.

I then tried Google Search AI Mode:

Joe Biden won the 2020 United States presidential election.

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beedeebeedee • today at 9:25 PM

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GuB-42 • today at 9:19 PM

Sounds like some kind of failure in the alignment process. The model was probably made to avoid having an "opinion" on hot political topics, and I can get behind this: good things rarely come out of it.

But here, it probably saw that 2020 elections made a lot of people angry, with riots and all that, and thought, "nope, I am getting out of that one", and it took over what would have been a straightforward answer.

It reminds me the time an AI (maybe Gemini, not sure) depicted a "diverse" US senate in the early 1800s, a time where it was all white dudes. People got up in arms over this.

My take: it is just a bug, move on, at least give them the time to fix it before getting outraged.

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elmer2 • today at 8:18 PM

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