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sigmoid10 • today at 8:40 AM • 8 replies • view on HN

>Estimated total impact: ~$6.3B, with ~$3B frozen on-chain so far, in coordination with our blockchain partners

I always find it amusing to read this. Why would you even bother with a decentralized currency that can move freely across the globe when some centralized institutions can always interfere in the way legacy banks used to do with your money? Either they are misguiding you about the core value of their product or their ability to execute traditional interventions in cases of theft. You can't have the conveniences of both at the same time.


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virtualritz • today at 8:50 AM

Exactly.

It's called the oracle problem. It's the Achilles heel of the whole idea.

And it's unsolvable. As soon as you want to trade some coin for something real, you need an oracle.

Wanna buy a flat in a world where (for argument's sake) even the ownership of that asset is tracked on a blockchain?

Let's say I come home from holidays and someone else lives there.

How do I then prove it's mine? Because it says so in some computer?

Someone has to believe that is true and let me enforce that ownership tie.

Those persons (a judge, the police, even if robots by then) are the oracle.

And a more common scenario than theft is btw legal ownership transfer.

What if I die somehow before giving the blockchain keys needed for that to someone?

How will my brother inherit the flat?

Oracle.

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tokioyoyo • today at 9:03 AM

At some point it clicked to me that crypto people don’t really care about the utility. Main purpose is creating new players in the world with immense amounts of power. In the end, it did produce a lot of rich people out of thin air, and I guess, served its purpose.

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not-kinsale-joe • today at 8:46 AM

Stable coins are not Crypto, they are just built on top of crypto to avoid normal financial regulations.

lxgr • today at 10:20 AM

> Why would you even bother with a decentralized currency that can move freely across the globe when some centralized institutions can always interfere in the way legacy banks used to do with your money?

Regulatory arbitrage. Not all centralized institutions are fast enough to actually make use of the theoretical capabilities available to them.

no-name-here • today at 10:17 AM

> Why would you even bother with a decentralized currency that can move freely across the globe when some centralized institutions can always interfere in the way legacy banks used to do with your money?

Cheaper international transfers could be a specific valid use case. But I presume risk is too high for my taste.

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schleck8 • today at 8:45 AM

Crypto bros sure are quick to inform law enforcement and centralized financial authorities if their self governance fails

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boldaxolotl • today at 9:02 AM

I'd bet most of the frozen $3B is stablecoins and tokens with an admin freeze function. Tether and Circle can blacklist an address in minutes. Nobody can freeze BTC or ETH. So the money they got back is the part that was never decentralized in the first place, which supports your point from the other side