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eloisius • yesterday at 1:46 PM • 9 replies • view on HN

If it’s the country’s problem, then nationalize them. Not loans, not bail outs. Confiscate and figure out how to wind them down in a way that benefits the taxpayers.


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rtkwe • yesterday at 1:49 PM

Didn't even have to wind them down to benefit in some cases. I can't remember if it was the automaker or some of the 08 bank bailouts where the stock the government took as part of the bailout turned a profit after a few years.

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1718627440 • yesterday at 3:17 PM

I am confused. In my country that is what a bailout means. How do you pay money to a company but not buy them? What is it that the state buys from the company, if not ownership, then? Or is it a gift? That would be insane.

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CWuestefeld • yesterday at 2:19 PM

If the gov't made bad decisions letting us get to some situation, it doesn't make sense to reward the government and give it even more authority.

That's got perverse consequences. Just like with the corporate leadership, you're encouraging bureaucrats to make bad decisions because (a) they don't have to answer for their bad decisions, and in fact (b) they'll get to expand their authority should their decisions go bad.

The corporate leadership that got us to the problem should suffer, but so should any bureaucrats who had a part it allowing it to happen.

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vanuatu • yesterday at 3:07 PM

nationalization is likely on the horizon, but definitely not to wind them down (quite the opposite)

tayo42 • yesterday at 4:03 PM

Does the US have anything going for it right now besides ai and supporting industries? Something like nationalize or anything extreme would wreck the economy.we would all suffer

consensus1 • yesterday at 2:21 PM

You have a point here. It doesn't make sense that a company should get to keep the upside while having downside protection from the government. The problem is that the government makes the biggest bloated legacy nightmare of a corporation look like a 10 person startup. Between the two options I would rather have a pile of my tax money set on fire once every decade decade or so.

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krapp • yesterday at 2:48 PM

That would be socialism and socialism is bad.

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SV_BubbleTime • yesterday at 2:21 PM

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