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throwawayfifo • today at 2:53 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

>Essentially there's an asymmetry, because companies going bankrupt have no liability for debts

That's not what a limited-liability company is, not what it means. Anthropic and OpenAI are not LLCs.

>So the risk of bankruptcy is still covered by the general public, but a lot less of the benefits are felt by the public.

That's not how any of this works. Reading comments like this on HN and from elected officials is disappointing.


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stult • today at 5:11 PM

You're talking past the OP commenter. Not all companies whose owners enjoy the benefits of limited liability are Limited Liability Companies (LLCs). The other commenter was discussing the general concept of a company whose owners enjoy limited liability, meaning they cannot be held responsible for the company's debts or other financial obligations beyond the value of their ownership stake, i.e. their _liability_ for the company's obligations is _limited_. There are many corporate forms that provide this benefit to their owners, including common US corporate structures like LLCs, C Corps, S Corps, and Limited Liability Partnerships (LLPs). It's important to note that the terminology varies across jurisdictions, so the specific structure we call an LLC might be called something else entirely or might not exist at all.

Which is precisely why the OP commenter framed their argument in terms of the general concept of limited liability. The argument applies to any company structured with joint ownership and limited liability, whether we happen to label that corporate structure C Corp, Private Limited Company (Ltd.), Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung (GmbH), or even Limited Liability Company (LLC).

benrutter • today at 5:39 PM

I hope this doesn't sound rude, but I think you've interpreted my point in the least charitable way possible.

Non LLC are not unlimited liability companies. Those have existed historically, and mean that owners themselves are legally on the hook for any company debt, without limit.

Since I'm trying to repeat back something I heard elsewhere, I'll link to the original discussion. Adrian Wooldridge is a long term writer for Bloomberg and not sine random guy on a soapbox. The discussion is well thought out, and not emotionally charged. Sorry if I've accidentally given a different impression.

https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/business-history/how-the-com...

standeven • today at 3:35 PM

For this argument, is there a meaningful difference between a PBC and an LLC?

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