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ilamont • today at 4:45 PM • 8 replies • view on HN

A question: how come the North Koreans aren't draining banks in the U.S. and other countries of cash using equally sophisticated exploits against known technical and human vulnerabilities?


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gejose • today at 4:50 PM

Probably because fiat, unlike crypto, is not decentralized and fraudulent transactions can be reversed. A North Korean hacker zeroing out an account balance and incrementing another, can be reversed.

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postalcoder • today at 5:16 PM

They have! There was a famous incident in 2016 where NK tried to wire a billion dollars out of the NY fed and managed to get away with $100 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Bank_robbery

nphardon • today at 5:12 PM

They do, here's one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Bank_robbery

I think Darknet Diaries covers a bunch of these types of heists involving banks.

I suspect they just assess vulnerabilities and exploit them when/where they can. My understanding is that these thefts are big part of their (NK) economy.

echoangle • today at 5:38 PM

Other question: why don’t they just forge currency? Surely with nation states resources you can create fake currency that easily fools most inspections? Is it that hard to launder cash? Or is the a red line and they are afraid of political measures?

There’s Superdollars but it doesn’t seem to be a really widespread problem so far, right?

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logicchains • today at 5:10 PM

>"draining banks in the U.S. and other countries of cash"

Cash sits in vaults. North Korea would need to physically send a team of bank robbers to extract it. The digital representation of USD is not cash, it's an entry in a ledger, and banks generally have systems that would not allow adding an entry with a sudden transfer of a large amount of money to "J. U. Kim, North Korea". That's why Bitcoin is called "digital cash".

hungryhobbit • today at 4:48 PM

They are trying!

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paulpauper • today at 6:18 PM

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plaidfuji • today at 5:39 PM

I was going to ask, why would NK attack a China-based crypto firm? Then I learned that Binance isn’t headquartered anywhere. They’re literally asking to be hacked. Nobody will protect them.

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