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no-name-here • today at 11:12 AM • 5 replies • view on HN

> please put back the meaning of words

Which word(s)? From the reports I've seen, it's available to all citizens, and it's one of the 2 kinds of UBI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income

Edit: LoganDark4 replied but I got an error when submitting my reply to them, so including here:

> Even the smallest crappiest studios in most areas exceed $800/mo. Then you also have utilities and food before you even approach comfortable living.

Multiple percent of the population in the small Pacific country we're discussing lives on <$3/day (<$90/mo).

> Universal basic income means something you can live on.… UBI means you don't need external support to sustain comfortable living. That's its entire purpose.

From the very first paragraph of the link you replied to: "If the level is sufficient to meet a person's basic needs (i.e., at or above the poverty line), it is considered a full basic income; if it is less than that amount, it is called a partial basic income."


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caminante • today at 11:36 AM

*Partial UBI with only $800/year

Details aren't as sexy as the headline would lead one to believe.

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gus_massa • today at 11:40 AM

This page https://wage.is/marshall-islands/ claims the average is US$168000 per year and the median US$9600 per year. [My guess is that the poverty line is close to US$5000 per year, probably higher.] This program adds US$800 per year. So it's a "universal partial basic income" instead of a "universal total basic income".

In all the discussion I remember, "universal basic income" == "universal total basic income" but perhaps I was not paying too much attention.

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rambambram • today at 12:31 PM

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