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close04 • today at 5:07 PM • 1 reply • view on HN

Ring cameras recording outside people’s doors are what catalyzed the installation of more surveillance. After all people can’t complain one camera but not another when they all have the claimed justification of safety and security.


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antonvs • today at 5:49 PM

You absolutely can complain about Flock and other such cameras over Ring.

Ring cameras are privately owned, installed on private property, by the choice of the property owner. Data sharing is under the customer's control unless a judicial warrant is involved.

Flock cameras are a completely different situation. They're installed on public property, data sharing controls are an utter shitshow, and they give police the ability to do unconstitutional dragnet-style fishing for crime and even pre-crime, i.e. "suspicious patterns of behavior".

Equating the two is a complete misunderstanding of what's happening, but companies like Flock rely on that kind of ignorance to push their product.

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