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antonvs • yesterday at 6:33 PM • 0 replies • view on HN

You're reducing a spectrum to a binary, with all the errors that always come along with that.

Flock is at one rather extreme end of that spectrum, at least in the context of a democratic country with some civil liberties. They literally seem to be breaking laws in order to achieve their goals. Ring occupies a point pretty far from that.

All of these issues can be addressed with government laws and regulations, and hopefully will be. But the laws needed to constrain what Ring is doing are nowhere near what will be needed to constrain Flock.

> Unless consumers own the hardware, the service, and where the data is stored, they do not own any of it.

This is trivially false. But if you live in the US and take its legal and regulatory environment as an unchangeable fact of life, I can see how you might think that.