err, at least for Veilguard you're missing the point that the dialogue was preachy and stupid. It was a doomed concept when they started forcing bullshit into the game.
Veilguard was doomed long before your complaint about "bullshit" in a game. That's not why it failed.
Veilguard was doomed long before your complaint about "bullshit" in a game. That's not why it failed.