> Stable Debian is using Linux 6.12, if your laptop has modern hardware what do you do? Can't use wifi?

And Ubuntu 24.04 LTS is using 6.8.

Ubuntu releases a new version every six months, but an LTS — which is probably what most people run in production — only every two years. Debian releases come out every two years.

So if you only run Ubuntu LTS, the release cadence is the same as Debian.

You can use backports if you want a newer kernel, e.g. trixie-backports has 7.2.11.

> I want a LTS distro not a testing one.

You either want to have the new stuff or LTS. You can't have both.

Debian testing is way more stable than Ubuntu stable. In Debian's parlance, Testing means "release candidate", actually.

If you want real testing, you should run "unstable". If you're in for fun, try experimental.

Running Testing on my desktops and stable on my servers since forever. None of them broke, none of them created problems.

I don't care Stable running 6.x.x. It gets security updates in less than 24h, and is applied automatically before I wake up, and doesn't ship coreutils with 104CVEs, just because it's Rust.

This and other issues in parent comments is exactly the reason why I switched to Fedora.

You opt into backports and run the shipping 7.2 kernel: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux&searchon=n...

It's not 'as supported', sure, but I'll also note that wifi, at least, has worked on pretty much every modern laptop which I have installed Debian upon.

> Stable Debian is using Linux 6.12, if your laptop has modern hardware what do you do? Can't use wifi?

Why not just install a newer Linux version from the official backports repository if you need it?

https://backports.debian.org/

Well you may want to know that Ubuntu LTS releases are based on Debian unstable, not even testing...

I hope you realize the irony in your comment. Guess where Ubuntu packages come from?

> what do you do?

You get 7.12 from backports?

> Stable Debian is using Linux 6.12

But nobody runs Debian stable on their laptop.

They run Debian unstable or testing, with firmware.

And everything just works

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