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PaulHoule • yesterday at 6:26 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

Look, I want to see WCAG adopt "Any ad that covers content, a cookie banner, or Anubis or Cloudflare harassment is an immediate F grade" I'm a little more hopeful of that than to get a requirement like "you should actually have a disabled person test it"

What the people who like Anubis don't get is that the cost for honest people is very real, the cost for crawlers is basically $0 because: most of the people who run crawlers are just idiots and aren't paying attention to what's happening and get crap data and don't even know they are getting bounced and probably don't even look at the crap data they collect, the worst of the crawlers are running botnets using stolen CPU, the real AI companies don't have any financial discipline and wouldn't care it if anubis wasted a CPU*hour per page.

Or rather, those "click on the bus" images raise your blood pressure but are close to trivial for a bot to automate... It's all performative... We're good open source people who prove we are good open source people because we put Anubis on our page to shame those bad AI people.


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Grombobulous • yesterday at 9:02 PM

What is the cost of Anubis for honest people? I’m legitimately confused by that one.

I don’t like the cloudflare checkbox or click all the buses to access this website but Anubis you just sit there for a split second and do nothing.

That’s what people like about Anubis.

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daxuak • yesterday at 7:27 PM

I did not use chatbot for search until Anubis, Cloudflare and recaptcha are so prevalent that chatbot literally parses through the pages faster than I can open any one of them, using my daily browser, with my own hands. It seems not only my choice does not matter, but most websites also do not care about human readers. At this point I just use chatbot as search engine out of vengeance.

Also, optimized Anubis & other proof of work challenge solvers are much faster than a stock browser.

Asraelite • yesterday at 11:27 PM

It doesn't matter if you have to wait 10 minutes for Anubis to load, it will eventually load.

If you get blocked by another anti-bot mechanism, then there's nothing you can do without compromising on privacy or browser/device choice somehow.

An open web is more important than a convenient web, and Anubis or similar tools are the only option that keeps things truly open.

darepublic • yesterday at 7:09 PM

I think thought user behaviour telemetry was a big part of the captcha recipe. Not so much the clicking of the right squares per se

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heliomattress • yesterday at 8:24 PM

speaking of WCAG https://news.coffee/wcag.gif

Dylan16807 • yesterday at 8:09 PM

We can call the captchas and lockouts harassment, but I don't think a 3 second delay is in the same category of problem.