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treis • yesterday at 10:26 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

This is quite misleading. It includes numbers for commitments for leases of data centers and payments for power that are decades into the future.

Even if AI completely busts and all of these servers are worthless that doesn't mean the data centers are. There's still a need for data centers to host non-AI servers. The hyperscalers will close/sell other data centers and serve from places where they have long term commitments at.

3.2 trillion sounds like a lot until you spread it over 20 years and half a dozen trillion+ dollar companies. It's hard to tell how much a bag they're holding but it's almost certainly negligible compared to revenue and market cap. The only real systemic risk is the risk of for some reason not needing any data centers.


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vessenes • yesterday at 10:50 PM

As I've been pointing out a little bit recently -- the 'downside' scenario -- somehow we conclude we have enough inference at our world's desired quality and therefore demand stabilizes below that of these datacenters -- would be GREAT for the world. Super cheap intelligence for all.

If some lenders go bankrupt on a datacenter note post-buildout and the capital structure is reworked, lowering the costs by removing capitalization costs from the cashflow of the inference provider, that is all to the good of people who did not do the initial lending.

I think that is extremely unlikely, but it's good for datacenter doomers to think through these scenarios IMO.

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dam_jackalopes • yesterday at 11:25 PM

It depends. For Anthropic half of the $900b is going to be incurred by the end of 2030. There's definitely risk.

Grimblewald • yesterday at 10:52 PM

what do you think debt is? what you've described as misleading, is debt by definition.

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dd34e • yesterday at 10:38 PM

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