sudo.rs is a really weird direction for an evolution — it re-implements a complex piece of security dropping some arbitrary choices but keeping it pretty complex. It has the exact same security model. I honestly can't understand the appeal.

If you want something similar but simpler, go for doas.

If you need all the features in sudo, keep using sudo.

If you want to try new security models, try s6-sudo, or any other of various tools out there.

sudo-rs keeping the same name is actually a worse breakage — because it doesn't have the same API as sudo (as described by op), but has the same name and pretends to be a drop-in replacement while also not being a drop-in.

To many of us it's not about the features which you obliquely refer to when you say "evolve" but about licensing. It's extremely concerning that we're replacing GPL stuff for non GPL, and just as concerning that so many folks don't recognise this point.

I don't understand that logic. If it's fine for sudo-rs to have different behavior from sudo, why can't it also just have a different executable name? So that people who are expecting traditional sudo will get "executable not found" instead of having subtle silent problems.

If you read the article you would know this is a regression, not an improvement. Stuff breaking silently is never good. If you change config options error when you read the config file that no longer works.

You can perfectly write a replacement with advanced features w/o breaking anything. Best example breadth-first implementation of find. It mostly exists because find can't handle statx and so doesn't have access to all file properties like their birthtime.

It's 100% compatible to find plus some additional features. That's why it mentions find's manual for the basics and only points out what was added on top in its own manual.

Yes, they do. Put them into your stable server distribution AFTER they are complete.

> Tools have to be allowed to evolve.

Great, then give it a new name.

> At least the command is still called sudo or run0

You're happy it's a knockoff?

> would have been a much more breaking change

All these "Rust rewrite" projects are creating breaking changes all over the place, whilst solving no real problems. They can shove them up their arses.

>Tools have to be allowed to evolve. Half the Linux ecosystem's problems are caused by sticking on some design that made sense in 1980.

the other half of the problems are from people who think redesigning the wheel is a good idea and try to wedge conformity-breaking tools into the thing.

Why? Do knives need to evolve? Screwdrivers? Hammers? Can’t good be good?

> TFA blocks me with no workaround

I hope this copy works https://pastebin.com/mxAZyQJL (I was surprised the website even blocked archive.ph with "suspicious old browser")

Doas is already a replacement to sudo especially in the OpenBSD world.

You can install it in replacement as sudo on Linux.