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osener • today at 10:58 AM • 2 replies • view on HN

What does that even mean. It is design produced by the user and maker of the app. If you hire a designer that's neither, doesn't that actually make them the outsider?

He's not making a traditional art form as someone who's untrained. He's designing Calibre, and he's the most qualified person in the world in doing that.


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Geezus_42 • today at 12:10 PM

Your point would make sense if hiring designers wasn't the mainstream.

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latexr • today at 11:40 AM

> What does that even mean.

Outsider design? It means it’s designed by someone self-taught or not classically trained in the subject. It’s neither insult nor praise, it’s a classification, though often used as a way to express something as being unconventional and interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_art

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_music

> It is design produced by the user and maker of the app. If you hire a designer that's neither, doesn't that actually make them the outsider?

No, because it refers to “outside the world of design” not “outside the world of this product”. It’s two words but a single term.

> He's not making a traditional art form as someone who's untrained.

Your parent comment didn’t claim they were making art. But they are designing the app are are clearly untrained in design. Again, that’s not an insult. How many of us here are self-taught programmers?

> He's designing Calibre, and he's the most qualified person in the world in doing that.

That doesn’t necessarily follow. If that were the case there would be no designers, everyone would just do their thing. The point of learning design is to understand what works and why and how to apply it. It is perfectly valid for you to have a vision of what you want the thing to do but to need help in presenting it more effectively.

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