> Not sure if you know what you are talking about? Most users of Java don't pay anything to Oracle.

Congratulations Java Fan on missing BOTH the smily-face at the end of the first phrase AND the "More seriously though" at the start of the second.

I'm glad someone still loves Java though. ;)

P.S. The kubernetes reference was – since that one appears to have gone over the top of your head too – that in todays world Kubernetes is extraordinarily popular and therefore it is likely most people now hide the complexities of Java deployment into a container that is magically generated and deployed through CI/CD. Hence I was inferring that life is probably "easier" today with Java because you just deploy the magical container.