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Pangram Image 1.0

82 points • by gmays • yesterday at 7:27 PM • 38 comments • view on HN

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sean_pedersen • today at 12:35 AM

An ill advised undertaking IMO: Any attempt to build AI generated content detection systems is flawed, since the outputs of such a system may be used to train an even better fake data generator. This leads to an equilibrium state of digital uncertainty: nothing in the digital realm can be deemed as real anymore - only as digital.

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raincole • today at 5:24 AM

From my test it works surprisingly well. I have a digital painting that is only posted very recently (therefore not in the training set). I asked GPT, Gemini and Riverflow to generate images in the same style, and use SD to add noises to remove SynthID.

Pangram gave correct results for all of them (the original one is No AI; all the others are Likely AI).

hex4def6 • yesterday at 11:40 PM

At least on gemini generated images vs real ones, it works surprisingly well.

Taking a photo of an AI generated image on my grubby laptop screen with my phone, moire and all, still got detected. So the signal it's using is pretty robust.

Trung0246 • today at 1:43 AM

Interesting, it detected NovelAI stuff now. Looks like one can easily defeat it by having pixel-level modifications to make AI images to have characteristics of digital brush strokes and reducing "noise" in output. At least in my case for anime stuff.

alkonaut • yesterday at 11:33 PM

Can’t these detectors be used in the training loop of models?

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74948494i4 • yesterday at 11:15 PM

What’s the use case for these things?

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xnx • yesterday at 10:43 PM

I'm very skeptical of AI detection and watermarking for text (especially short passages), but AI detection for images and videos seems much more plausible (for now at least).

I would love if Meta licensed this tech to use for everything on Facebook, Instagram, and Whatsapp. Including ads!

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my002 • yesterday at 9:47 PM

People often shit on AI detectors but Pangram's text AI detection has been very good, IME. Not perfect, but good enough to be useful in most circumstances.

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nwhnwh • today at 4:44 AM

The cookie modal is disgusting... It takes a few moments to realize that if you only want the necessary ones, you need to close the modal as the existing action button is for allowing everything.

leothetechguy • today at 12:27 AM

Awesome research like this restores my faith in humanity.

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paulpauper • yesterday at 11:38 PM

just compress it? lossy should fool detection

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favori995749721 • today at 3:09 AM

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